An Interesting Conversation...

Was just blog-hopping & found this rather interesting post ... more like a rather interesting conversation between an agnostic prof & one of his students. The thing is when I googled there were a lot of different versions on the conversation... some even have an extended version of the conversation while others adapted it to suit their religion... Islamic version ... Christianity version and there's the question on who is the student actually? Be it Albert Einstein or PJ Abdul Kalam or maybe someone else? The version below is from We Canadians webbies. Some other extended version can be found here! <- I prefer this version actually but it's a Christian version :p

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the
problem science has with God. He asks one of his new students:

Prof: So you believe in God?
Student:
Absolutely, sir.

Prof : Is
God good? Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.

Prof: My brother died
of cancer even though he
prayed to God to heal him. But God didn't. How is this
God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can
you? Let's
start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan
good?
Student : No

Prof: Where does Satan
come from?
Student: From...God....

Prof: That's right. Tell me son,
is
there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere,
isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.

Prof:
So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there
sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these
terrible things exist in the
world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)

Prof:
Science says you have 5 senses you
use to identify and observe the world
around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever
seen God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard
your God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God,
tasted your God, smelt your God?
Have you ever had any sensory perception of God
for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet
you still
believe in Him?
Student: Yes.

Prof: According to
empirical,
testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist.
What
do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student:
Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.
Student:
And is
there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir.
There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of
events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat,
superheat, mega
heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we d on't
have anything called
cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no
heat, but we can't go any
further after that.
There is no such thing as
cold . Cold is only a word we
use to describe the absence of heat . We
cannot measure cold. Heat is energy .
Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir,
just the absence of it. (There is
pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness,
Professor? Is there such a thing as
darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if
there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the
absence of
something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
flashing
light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's
called
darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be
able
to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you
are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical
premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student:
Sir,
you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and
then
there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept
of God as
something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't
even explain a
thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never
seen, much less fully
understood either one. To view death as the opposite
of life is to be ignorant
of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the
opposite of life : just the absence of
it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach
your students that they evolved
from a monkey?

Prof: If you are
referring to the natural
evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed
evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The
Professor shakes his head with a
smile, beginning to realize where the argument
is going.)

Student:
Since no one has ever observed the process of
evolution at work and cannot
even prove that this process is an on-going
endeavor, are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a
preacher? (The class is in
uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class
who has ever seen the
Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into
laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the
Professor's
brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so.
So,
according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect,
sir,
how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The
professor
stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Prof: I
guess you'll have
to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it
sir.... The link between man
& god is FAITH . That is all that keeps
things moving & alive.

Do You Wear Suspenders? ... I know I don't =p

Ok guys! First of all I would like to thank Lydia Teh personally for dropping by my blogspot! (I was kindda shocked looking at my previous post comment actually... Lydia Teh herself left a comment hehehe). As I wrote in my previous post, Lydia Teh new book... "Do You Wear Suspenders? – The Wordy Tales of Eh Poh Nim"! has already been published and this post will solely help her to further promote this book! I'm tellin' ya to go to your nearest bookstore & go grab one! If you're still not convinced then check this out... a youtubookertisement!

Who is Lydia Teh?

The first printed copy I bought, authored by Lydia Teh was "Honk If You’re Malaysian" [2007]. I didn't know that it's in fact a sequel to "Life's Like That - Scenes from Malaysian Life" [2004], not until recently when I inadvertently found the 2nd printing by Pelanduk Publications of the said book. I much prefer the cover of the 2nd printing rather than the first one though. Her writings are based on observations on our everyday life, spot on and precise. I would sometimes find myself laughing out loud while reading and at the same time agreeing to what was written. All the minute things you take for granted in your everyday life, assuming that it's conventional and not worth worrying about has become the gist of it. Yeah, sometimes life itself requires simplicity and this book is the right choice if you're seeking just that... light, easy read and funny. When I read her books, it occurs to me that it's not just me noticing & experiencing these things, there are others out there and the only difference is our POV... and one of us had made their opinions public & published. It's a good read... I suggest you to read slowly and just enjoy them as I did... any of em!

...and one more thing! I also picked up a copy of her latest book entitled "Do You Wear Suspenders? – The Wordy Tales of Eh Poh Nim"! Haven't started on that one though, bet it'll be awesome!

I'm currently hunting for books by Malaysian writers! Next review? 'Dina Zaman' perhaps, for her book "I am Muslim" heard it's kind of a fast selling book,maybe will give em a try.

Memorable quotes from Movies...

Mulan (1998) - "The flower that blooms in adversity... is the most rare and beautiful of them all" Emperor

O_o I can't find the youtube for this ...

Kung Fu Panda (2008) - "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present." Ooogway

I'm not sure bout the origin of this quote... Three possibilities, Eleanor Roosevelt (most if not all of her quotes are really very inspiring), Leslie Gerber... or maybe Babatunde Olatunji.